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Point Break
Welcome back to the Quarter Mile Podcast! Join DREW DAVIS and our new co-host CJ WALTON as we review the 90's cult classic, POINT BREAK and talk about it's connection with The Fast and The Furious. Stay tuned up with us for Season 2 as we dive into Fast & Furious ADJACENT films!
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Welcome back to the quarter mile plot past season two. We have made it.
Just like in Fast and Furious, the first one they were in LA and then they drove to Miami for the second episode.
We are recording now in my hometown in Nashville, Tennessee, new location, new co-hosts, ladies and gentlemen.
I am so excited to introduce you if you don't already know it or one of my good friends, one of my favorite comedy people,
CJ Walton, CJ, we are so glad to have you. You welcome to the quarter mile podcast. Thank you for putting me for letting me walk down here.
Yeah, well thank you for, we were at CJ's house, so thank you for letting me walk here or drive here.
I'm so excited to have you on this podcast. We're so excited about season two. Right off the bat, I would love for everyone listening to learn a little bit about you.
We've been telling us about yourself and as we always ask every one of our people on this podcast one of the most important questions you'll ever answer at the quarter mile podcast is what is your relationship with the Fast and Furious.
Just to your answer may, like that will dictate whether you're on episode two or not.
Oh wow. Okay, so I'm originally from Chatting Goods in the Sea. Shout out to Chatting Goods.
All days, Chatting Goods in the Sea, born and raised, went to high school there, got christened and baptized and all that there and came up here because I'm a third generation Tennessee State University founded in 1912 as a land-grant institution in the Northwest Rock Hills and Nashville, Tennessee.
Wow. Wow, that was, it sounds like you invented.
It does, but I did not. My grandmother went there, my mother went there, my sister went there, my father went to Lane, so I'm a definite HBCU.
I graduated with a theater degree, so I went to performing arts high school.
Yeah, my degree in theater, minor in journalism, so I love the news, I'm a nerd. Yeah, I'm a nerd. I did not know about that about you until we actually sat down and had like a real conversation, like a non-comedy show.
Yeah, like I'm a, and then you were like, yeah, all about the news and I was like, wow, that's, it was like a, it was like a different onion layer.
Yeah, I love history, like any, any type of history, any type of news or any world news, political news, anything I'm like, I love to soak that up.
And speaking different languages, I teach kids, I've been working with kids since I was 15. I have a family member who has Down syndrome, but that of course doesn't mean anything.
It just means you just have Down syndrome. Yeah, and she's able to go to college, you do whatever. So I started doing that and started working with kids up here in Nashville.
And then I got one, the best actors of the year in 2017. Wow, awesome. Thank you. What was the movie? It was a role, Clyde Warren Park.
And then I got in a comedy in 2017. Yeah, 17. Yeah, 2017, because of Renard Hirsch.
One of my favorite comedians ever shout out to a nerd. And then I started doing my own thing, kind of feel back, kind of directed my very first play, Broadway play here in Nashville.
Very cool. Thank you. You opened up, didn't you? One of my shows? Bye, bye, Bernie. No, I've never been in any of these. I know I had comedians open up the show. That's awesome.
That was so much fun. I bet you would a great audience, like the audience for a theater, like for a show, any theater audience is going to be a great show.
Yeah, because that's my dream. I want to be a comedic actress. Right. Like that's who I want to be. Like I want to do comedy, but I also want to be like, like Melissa McCarthy or Wippy Goldberg.
Yeah, I was about to ask you your inspirations where that's cool. Those two. Definitely those two, but that's that's me. So now let's talk fast and furious. Yes.
What what what what's your relationship with God favorite franchises? I like to go.
I mean, I'm an original like fast and furious girl. When it first came out, I was like, okay, because I like fat. I like cars.
I'm from chat and you know, that means I'm a country girl, which means I like drag racing. I'm a theater girl, which means I grew up on Greece, which means I was like, yes, let's.
And drive and let's see who's going to win. And then I'll just I'm not going to lie. Like a bad guy. I like that boy. I like a bad boy. So when fast and furious came out, it was.
Honestly was like, not the bad guy winning, but the people who were supposed to get the cars got the cars. Yeah, it was the first the first one like the
one took me about the pro. No, like there is no clear good and bad guy. That's and I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, which they try to do in point break. We're going to talk about that a little bit.
A lot of people compare the two and say they're basically the same movie and I've very strong opinions about that. So yeah, I guess so.
But I see what they're saying, but I don't see what they're saying. Good. Good. We're, I can't wait. We're going to cover that. We're going to talk about that.
Before we get into point break, if this is your first time tuning into the quarter mile podcast, let me just give you a fast and furious recap. This is our second season.
Our first season, we did a wild ride through the first 10 fast and furious movies. Oh, wow. Okay. It was it was a lot.
Okay. And it was awesome. I do. I'm obsessed with the series. This whole, this whole podcast is fast and furious themed. And what that means for this season is we are technically out of the 10 original movies that are part of like the series.
Now what you guys might notice in future episodes, including next week's episode, a side note, we were a monthly podcast and now we're a weekly podcast. That's exciting.
Um, is occasionally we'll hit some of the off brand fast and furious movies, but a lot of the movies we're covering this for this season are what I'm calling fast and furious adjacent movies. Okay.
So like, for example, point break, uh, fast and furious ripped off the plot of point break. And I wish I didn't, I wish that was wrong, but when the directors themselves say that, then you, you have to be like, well, okay.
And we'll, we'll talk more about that in this episode, but they did find inspiration for the first fast and furious movie off of point break. Hence why we're taking our first episode to talk about point break.
Let's talk about, yeah, but we got other movies coming up. Well, you know, follow us on all of our social media because then you'll see, then you'll see everything we got going on. We have lots of polls. We have lots of interactions.
Before we do every episode, we like to ask people what their opinions are of the episodes. So the quarter mile podcast, if you just type that in anything, we'll pop up. This will podcast is we review movies. We have fun. If you're looking for really snobby, snooty, righteous movie critics. That's not us. We more just, we enjoy it. We have fun. We're going to have opinions.
I'm snooty. Okay.
I'm more of like a look. I don't care. I liked it. I didn't like. I'm bougie. That's good. Yeah. You put the bougie. I definitely do. Don't I?
Absolutely. Um, and so we are just here to have a good time. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Motto at the quarter mile podcast is life short. Listen to our podcast. Absolutely. Um, so that being said, today we are talking about point break. I gotta be honest. I didn't know this movie is the biggest deal. Oh, I did not.
So like, I guess this is like one of those like 90s movies that everyone saw. Right?
It's a cult. I just started the cult classic genre. I know that now. I, I, I existed in the 90s and I had no, nobody ever said go watch point break. I absolutely loved it.
I, I, you know, I understand the hype. Now we will get into how I think people, you know, downplay fast and furious because of point break.
And see, I've never heard that. Yeah. Oh, so I'm very happy to delve into that with you. I'm very happy to delve into that with before we get into our own opinions. We have a few things to cover.
Yeah, let's go. Just for the overview, um, the director was a Catherine Bigelow. Yes, we know mostly from the hurt locker and zero dark 30. Do you like either of those movies? I like the her locker. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that's a, that's a powerful movie. And then the cast, great big names. Uh, Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swasey's the big ones.
Gary, you see, this is the first time I saw like Gary, you see, I feel like I've only been kidding me. I've only seen Gary, you see making fun of Gary, you see.
No, don't do my boy like that. Don't do Gary like that, man. Okay. Y'all be doing Gary wrong. Yes, he's crazy, but y'all be doing it. He's a good actor. He is like he, he, he to me is one of the best parts of the movie. Thank you.
What he died. I was very upset. Yeah. I'm still upset at the fact that the way he died. Yeah. Honestly, when I was watching this movie, I thought he was, um, I thought the way the plot was going is he was going to be like a, like a dirty cop.
Like he was worried because the right watch it. There's few times. Yeah. Yeah. Like the whole like when he was waiting for it. Absolutely. I'm asking him to go get a sandwich. Uh, it's funny because it's like I thought like, Oh, he's going to do something nefarious.
You just wanted a sandwich. When I tell you, we'll get back to that part. We'll get back to that. We'll get back to it. Also, this movie Laurie Patty. She was great in this movie. And she's been a lot of other good. Yeah, she has. He to say though, give her her flowers, man. I forget about her until I see her in a minute.
Exactly. Give her flowers, man. Give her flowers, give her flowers. And then John C. McGinney, what's the role you think of when you think of John C. McGinney? There's one like big one for me. Give it to me.
So I think of Dr. Cox from scrub when I was watching him here. It felt like he was the character from scrubs just in. Or that was that was pre-screw.
Yeah, I think the scrubs people were like, Hey, we want you to do that character for this show. I know we're doing this at my house. Get out. So yeah, well, I'm never going to make no you get out.
If I'm not mistaken in because I'm a theater girl, that was one of Keanu's early big breakouts. And if I'm not mistaken, I want to say, Swazie might have been a little bit bigger than him at the time.
Don't quote me. Don't quote me on that. But I'm in one quarter. Everything one of you.
What is DJ ball and may he rest of you? May he rest of these, but I want to say that might have been Keanu's.
It couldn't have been speed. I want to say this is pre-speak. This was way pre-speak.
If you guys want to just nerd out more on point break, we actually dropped a Christmas episode where I interviewed my friend Kyle Castro who runs the love Kyle.
Great guy. He runs the movie wars podcast. He's also this is point break is one of his favorite movies. And so when I learned that I was like, well, you got it.
We got to do an extra bonus episode, which is talked to you. And so he has all kinds of fun facts about Keanu Reeves. This movie. It's our 12th episode.
So to speak, it was bonus content, but it kind of wrapped up season one and let us into season two. So if you're listening to this podcast and you're like, wow, I would love to.
I just can't get enough point break stuff. The episode is called a point break stocking stuff. Because we were air we love that. We dropped it on Christmas. So yes, I mean, I mean any any Keanu Reeves facts like I would honestly love to delve into that or him.
It don't end to him. Yeah.
So what's everyone? Yeah, what's everyone? He's so cool. And he was a shadow rose recently shadow the head jog, which so sweet.
He did so good. Those of you who know our podcast well, you know that oftentimes instead of just giving a summary, we do something a little bit weird, a little bit special.
We generate an artificial intelligence summary. And we learned midway into our season last last year that is a lot more fun when you ask AI to take it from perspective.
So today we have an AI plot summary of point break supposedly from the perspective of Keanu Reeves. So CJ is an literally an award winning actress. So I thought it'd be really fun if she gave us her best.
Keanu Reeves impression as she read the plot. And if you're seeing this, feel free to just, you know, comment and let us know how please blown away you are at her Keanu Reeves impression.
I hope it's good. I hope it's good. All right. Here comes.
Whoa. Let me take you back to the early 90s. All right, dude. Here's the low down on point break. Play Johnny Utah. This hot shot FBI agent with chip on his shoulder.
Just graduated from Quantico and they throw me into the deep of end of the pool in Los Angeles. We are team up with season and
somewhat chaded agent and Jelopopus, man, betray by the incomparable Gary Busy. Love and comparable. And he's great. So pop up is this is like wall theory about a group of bank robbers called the ex president.
These guys were masked before me. You as president when they hit banks with surgical precision kicker. You ready for this?
All right. Pop us thinks they're surfers. No, right? Totally radical, man. All right. So check this out to get closer to the truth. I go undercover and learn how to surf.
Inner Bode play by the one and only Patrick Swazie. Yo. Bode is this carous, charismatic, fearless and somewhat philosophical leader of the group of surfers.
The guy is mesmerizing man. Talks about surfing like in a spiritual way. Journey man. We bond and I get a start getting.
Old into his world all the while still trying to nail him as the mastermind behind the ex president. Hopefully my voice is doing really good.
Yo, I'm going to keep going. Yo, the waves get higher. The stakes get gnarlier. Bode and his crew aren't just surfing. They're living on the edge, man.
Constantly searching for that ultimate rush, the 50 year storm, like this mythical monster wave.
It's like the perfect storm. Then it encapsulated their entire philosophy of living life to the fullest. No matter the consequences.
Then the action amps up. There's a skydiving scene that's totally insane.
Pure adrenaline man. Will T's get burnt blurred and it's like my identity as an FBI agent classes with his newfound brotherhood with Bode and the surfers.
The climax is an intense showdown on the beach as the 50 year storm finally hits. Yo, Bode catches the wave, thinking his ultimate rush.
Well, I'm left grappling with the fallout of living a double life in the choices I've made. So yeah, man. Point break is like this wild ride of adrenaline, philosophy and some killer surf scenes, man.
It's not just a high-smoothie. It's about the more freedom, the cost of chasing your dreams and finding your true self in the most unexpected places.
Yo, Hank Tendoods. Whoa. I felt like CJ left the room and Keanu Reeves himself came and was a special guy. I hope I did. I hope I did Mr. Reeves.
Hey Keanu, if you're watching this, let us know. Let us know if you're listening to this podcast, how we did.
Now we're to my favorite part of the show, which is we call it fast fan feedback. Yes. So before every episode, before every movie review, we always put it out online on Facebook, on Instagram, on Reddit.
To random people and conversations, if I'm being honest, I'll just ask them, what do you think about this movie? And so these are some of your all thoughts on point break. Most of these, I believe, came from Reddit.
So the big question I was asking people on Reddit was like, what do you guys think about this being a, you know, fast and furious being a rip off from point break? Do you care? Is it a big deal? Like is it a matter? Do you agree? Do you disagree? And this is what people said.
So this one person, A Q L N O, I'm not going to try to pronounce it, but that was the letters in their name. There's not enough vowels. It's not enough vowels when I'm going to go with alkaline. Yeah, that sounds right. So yeah, battery.
You're going to call you battery alkaline. If you're listening, I feel no, no, we're please correct us. Please.
This is one of my favorite things to think about how movies and other media influences inspire one another. It's undeniable that fast and furious follows a near identical plot to point break, but I still find them to be very different viewing experiences.
Yeah, I agree. And I guess because I've never thought about connecting the two. So that's where we're today. That's where I'm at.
Yeah, we're going to talk about the comparisons. Yeah, that's where I'm at. So this is this other person who is with with dumb case. So this is what Mr. K so or Mrs. K so or just K so.
I like so. Yeah, I'm every time I look at the name, it sounds good.
Personally, I don't care that fast one was basically point break. Okay, that's where I argue, but we're fine. In my opinion, it used the premise and changed the basic elements.
Okay, I see where you go. And then this was a good point. They brought up that we covered in multiple of our early episodes. Also, when I think about it, a lot of fast and furious movies are basically other movies, but with cars.
Tokyo drift, for example, was the cruddy kid with cars, which is crazy that you can make so many comparisons. Yeah, I guess.
Fiora 7 is die hard with a vengeance with cars, debatable. Fast 9 follows a godfather to structure and features cars.
I don't know about those, but I do know that fast 5 definitely had Italian job vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're lucky.
I do know that fast 10 fast X was it's not that I haven't seen it. Yeah, well, it is basically like the avengers of finity war, like the way even from the point where the cliffhanger ending the time to bring all the superheroes together.
And then one thing we noticed when we watched fast eight was this was back when zombie movies were kind of a bigger deal.
Yeah, and so they actually did what they called zombie cars in the movies, which were they were being automatically controlled from one device and they actually made a scene that looked like zombies were coming at you, but they were cars instead of zombies.
Yeah, but that's a stretch godfather to I don't know about that. I don't know, but big stretch.
I think fast 9 is like godfather to someone please tell us how I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And then the last comment is from this is Jacob B. Riddle.
That's actually compared to the other names that was super clear and comes eyes. Thank you. Jacob Riddle.
Jacob says they are nearly shot for shot the same films. I don't know about that, but I love them both for what they are and almost love them more once noticing for ages. I've been wanting to do a side by side screening of them.
Well, Jacob, if you decide to do a sky by side screening, go check out our friends at movie wars podcast because they have a fast and furious verse point break.
You got to scroll down a little bit, but in preparation for this episode, I listen to that and they do a side by side comparison. So that's pretty good.
Check that out if you want or not before we get into our own opinions and our own thoughts about this movie for everyone listening, my favorite part is hearing your opinions.
My favorite part is interacting with other fans of all the movies cover point break, fast and furious, whatever you want. Please check us out on social media, the quarter mile podcast.
We regularly will post the movies we're reviewing and just basically be like, what do you think? One of my favorite things we do is each season we do a different poll and try to get as many people involved in the poll last last year.
It was ranking the fast and furious movies for this season. We do know we're going to have a season three. We're going to run out of fast and furious adjacent films.
We are. So the way we're doing season three is we are going to paper focus on one of the main actors and cover their movies.
So it'll be pretty cool. So but the way we figure out me that I will. Oh yeah, my bad. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Sorry.
That's news to you all and this is news to see James. It is great. Yeah. So the way we're going to figure out what actor we're going to do though is we're going to put it up as a poll and leave it up for the entire second season.
We can vote at any point you can literally pause this. Hopefully you're not driving, which you can pause as you go social media and drop a vote right now if you want. So for the first for season three here is going to be the options. We're going to have Vin Diesel. We're going to Paul Walker.
We're going to Michelle Rodriguez. And they're going to have a kind of a fourth year option. But those of you who know fast and furious know that they have a Netflix animated series. They do.
So the fourth option is going to be just the first season of fast and furious speed racers or spy racers. It's called.
Have you seen that? I have not, but I know it's there and I really want to show it.
I want to show it to the kids at school. I've watched a little bit, but I've refrained from watching more until I know I have to talk about it.
Now CJ, it's time for us to give our opinions on this movie. So would you like to, would you like to get the conversation rolling or you want me to get a rolling or let me see what you have to.
Oh, okay. Well, right up and first. Right. Thank you. Oh, Shivores. How shivores of you. Yes. Yes. Right off the bat going into the movie. The thing that I, the only thing I knew about point break was everyone was saying fast and furious was a rip off a point break though. It's basically the same movie, right?
Right. Going into it. That's kind of what I was expecting to see. And at first, I kind of saw, especially when you compare Paul Walker's character, Brian O'Connor to Keanu Reeves character. Johnny Utah. Like the I would be interesting to see Keanu Reeves do a part of fast and furious as Brian O'Connor.
I do feel like their characters were very similar. And even some of the opening scenes, like when he's training, when he's practicing the shoot is gun practice. That's reminiscent of sent to me in the first fast and furious when Paul Walker was driving.
Driving and yeah. But here's where here's where I thought as the movie went on, it did kind of drift in different lanes like into me the biggest difference was the character of Donald MacTorredo and the character of Bode.
A lot of people I heard people tell me like, yeah, they're based. I mean, Donald chose a rip off of Bode. No, right. Only thing they had is they were charismatic and passionate people follow them.
But Vin Diesel's character by the end, you kind of are left to think, well, he's not really a bad guy. Well, he was the bad guy, but you like you felt for him. You kind of agreed with Paul Walker for like letting him go and stuff like that.
That was the beauty of the movie was there wasn't a click. I mean, the cops weren't that great. Paul Walker lost in literally everything.
Everything he wasn't he wasn't great. And then we'll talk about that a little bit next week when we talk about the terrible charge of prelude. You know Vin Diesel, you felt for him, even though he was technically the antagonist.
Whereas Bode in point break, maybe at the beginning, at the beginning, I was like, this guy seems pretty cool. But as the movie goes on, I'm like, do the freaking psycho.
Like maybe he meant well, but like he's still kidnap the girl threatened is a lot of her life. He killed people and he still was and he was all about the rush and you know, even though they were both kind of, you know, Vin Diesel is like, I live my life a quarter mile at a time. And Bode was like, I just chased the biggest way.
I chased the biggest way of yeah.
And then Vin Diesel was more about protecting his people doing the like doing right by his people. Bode was like all about chasing that rush.
Bode, but Bode did want to protect his people in the beginning of the movie. They never hurt anybody. It was just at the end when his psychopathy chain.
Yeah.
It was at the end of the movie where he was like, you know, that's why he was like, what are you doing? We never do this.
But he never do that. I feel like he was addicted to the rush, right? And as an as an as the movie went on, he needed a bigger rush. Well, I feel like no, he was like super zen super chill. I was like, hey, no, I think when I think when he lost his first partner, that's when he started going right down.
Yeah, yeah, that was the start of him. Maybe you lost control. Me though. And he and he was a man who had control of everything. Even when Keanu was getting beat up. Remember in the first thing we got beat up by Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Absolutely.
Going to say which by the way, I think one of the greatest sins of this movie was we had the red hot chili pepper, at least one person in it, but we never got like a Red Hot Chili Peppers song in the movie.
I was waiting and you know, sometimes I just knew they were going to do a song, but I was so happy for that. But yeah, but right at that scene, like he controlled that scene, just like he controlled the girl, just like he controlled the party.
Right. So like you're saying he when he lost control, I really do believe that's when he started unraveling unraveling and spiraling and like, I need this rush.
Yeah, but I think the thing is is what I kept hearing from people is like, but yeah, he was a good guy. I was like, I don't think I he by the end like you know he's the villain. Yeah, I don't know if he was the good guy.
I just know that he didn't want to harm people. Right. So I can't say he was the good that was a complex character. I think there we go.
And this is something that Kyle said in our interview with him, and I'm totally probably butchering the very wording, but he was like what he mentioned was, you know, he was a different kind of villain for those kind of movies because before you just have the nefarious buff dude that
Yes, yes, very one dimensional and this character at least is everyone at the beginning, you were kind of rooting for him. You kind of like them. You like the charisma. Now towards the end, you kind of were like, I don't think he's losing it.
Yeah, absolutely. You could you could understand. I couldn't understand his reasonings because if you just want to do the big wave and you know, you're going to probably die. Why do you need to keep hitting up the banks?
So that was the complex part that I cannot understand because you didn't you didn't live for money. You like you said you live for the rush. Yeah. So were you living to die.
Kind of kind of that was his big thing was, you know, he really wanted that big way. That big way. He did not care if it killed him or not.
Which was kind of the interesting part was the ending of the movies both Keanu Reeves, I guess Johnny Utah and Bode by the end got exactly what they wanted. Yeah, right? Like because you know from Keanu Reeves perspective, he spent months trying to find them after that.
And he finally got him and like similar to the fast and furious when Paul Walker or Brian O'Connor threw out his badge at the end, he was like, well, you know, he's done. Yeah, he can. Yeah.
And Johnny Utah same thing. He it's him. It was more important to get justice and to you know deal with Bode and settle the score. And so when he let him get on that wave, like he knew he was going to die.
Like so I was going to ask you, do you think he knew that he was going to die? Do you do you think they both knew Bode didn't care. He was more about I just want to ride this amazing wave and if it kills me, it kills me. Right.
And you know, and if it didn't kill him and this, you know, I guess it technically if you didn't kill me would have gone to prison, but then assuming he got out of prison, he would have been looking for that next big rush.
Yeah, maybe he'd be looking for the Russian prison. I don't know. But what was interesting to me was he was because a lot of people like I would read reviews or teaks about this movie.
And they would say just like Brian O'Connor like became kind of friends with Dominic Coruto and like, you know, did him a favor by letting him go, you know, you know, you know, Johnny Utah was doing the same thing.
But I don't think it was the same thing because I know I think he was thinking himself either he gets on this wave and probably kills himself, which he was kind of rooting for.
Or you know, he surfs finally and then they then they take him to prison is whatever, but like you, but at the end when he threw his badge away, to me, that was his way of being like, look, because I made this tall as a law enforcement person that I'd rather watch this person die. I can't be a police officer anymore.
I agree with that. And then I also think that he just once that was a goal that he set out to accomplish. Right. He got the goal. He was like, he already got his girl. The notice they did not. He they were still together.
So I feel like he was just like, I've done everything that I needed to do. I got you. Yeah, whatever they want to do. And I honestly think that he felt a kinship to him.
Like everyone was like, he's so charismatic. He's so cool. Like he's so sad. I'm like, no, he's a psycho. And you're fascinated by him.
He's a definitely wonderful manipulator. He's a definitely wonderful manipulator. I definitely think that he would have he would have ran a great cult. Oh my god. He would have been great.
Cool. I can be like the surfer brother. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was no way that four on one. He more y'all. Yeah. And then they let it go. Yeah.
Like those were his boys. He knew. Yeah. Surely they could have been like, we're not gonna do. We're not gonna do. No, but he says it. Let's trust him. Right. Like every time the body, if they this is joining you to oh yeah.
Anytime, but he said something. They were automatically like, all right. Cool. And you really saw that in the scene after everything went down in the guy died in the bakery. And they're like, what are we going to do? We got to stop. We got to run. And he got up at that campfire. And like his little motivational speech was all they needed. So that's exactly what I was talking about.
Like exactly at the campfire. And then women for him to go from woman to woman. And and don't get me wrong. I mean, if you find one, if I would, I'm fine. But he was like these are my women here.
Take her. Here's one. Like this is what she likes. And this is what she doesn't. It didn't really matter. He was just like whatever. Because they were everyone pretty much it felt like everyone there belonged to Boty. Yeah. Absolutely. He had he was front of the alpha of the whole culture. I definitely. I definitely keep on.
And we think about the specifics of this movie. How weird is it that they're like, we need, we need an officer. A federal officer undercover. Let's pick the famous former football player that ever let's pick the one that everybody knows that we bet money on and Ohio.
And we know what happened that he blew out his knee and all of that. He seems like a perfect candidate to learn how to serve first. We let him say his real name. Right. Yeah. They weren't like don't they were like no one is like maybe give a different name and just say,
I know I get that I look a lot like that was the whole for me like that was that was the whole for me. That was that was your Johnny Utah. It was like.
Well, I mean clearly he's not going to be a cop because he's a really cool former football football player. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's a cool guy. Let's let's let's let's let's.
Yeah. Football players don't become cops. Like when I think about this movie, clearly the actors in point break. I think like are better than the actors in the fast and furious.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like when you talk about big names and talk however, I would argue that fast and furious the characters were better than the characters in point break.
Like when you look at Bodeys crew versus Vin Diesel, you know, Dominic Toretto's crew, like each of his, you know, he had Vince. He had Jesse. He had.
Letty. He had me. All these people who were. Nobody was better than Gary Bucy. Yeah. We had Gary Bucy.
Nobody's better than Gary Bucy. I'm sorry. Although he did. I mean, he did. I he was probably my favorite character in the movie. The thing that cracked me up at the beginning was why were they having him like go down and pick up pick up brick.
When is that ever going to help you? It would have been really funny if at some point in the movie some situation happened and he saved the day because he knew how to breathe underwater.
I wish I knew, but I don't have an answer. Yeah. I don't know. Listen. If you're listening to this and want to please let us know.
Like what type of why if you know, training training for him to go into a pool. It felt like they were just like, well, he's old and we don't care about him.
So let's go have him pick up. We're explain. But now, but other people had to do it. So yeah, I don't know why ultimately I thought this movie. I was. I was a good movie. I enjoyed it.
I do see how fast and furious was motivated by this movie if the directors themselves weren't the people that called it a knockoff. I would kind of a problem with it because saying that fast and furious, you know, completely ripped off point break is like saying any movie that has orcs and elves ripped off token.
Yes, the only way I could see it is because point break started a cult classic genre. So that's where I could see it. I could see like, oh, well, this highest that highest.
But I mean, I feel like there's I guess not going over this so many differences, but because then who will lot be with the girlfriend be Michelle Rodriguez.
I mean, you could relate to maybe to me more so than you said, yeah, because because she was you know, the one with because just like grind O'Connor was conning Mia in fast and furious and like, and then the love was there.
In the same way Tyler was conned by Johnny Utah one thing that really jumped out to me was the relationships between each character.
And especially and I know you're going to be like, you said his name so much. But between Gary and Keanu.
I really like that relationship too. It was really I thought it was going to be very off putting. But it turned out to be probably one of the best relationships.
Yeah, it was a it's just a good friendship partner relationship. I mean, so many times it is focus on the enemies the villain versus the hero or they focus on the love interest.
I really like a good movie that has like these are really good friends or this is a good partner. Yeah, they yeah, I mean, I feel like that's why buddy cop movies do well.
Yeah, they actually did a good job. I felt like all the relationships were strong. Yeah, absolutely. You know, you had to build the hero dynamic.
You know, it didn't start that way though that it. No, that's what I'm saying. I felt like it was more of an uncle nephew. Yeah, almost because it was he was literally learning from him.
On the job like he did. And I and it changed for me when he actually jumped on that thing and was like showed him like, dude, they're surfer. Yeah, absolutely.
Like I was not expecting Gary B. So you do know, no, yeah, like that. Well, I love that he ride away like he knew that it was, you know, so for an if we're pointing out plot holes again.
I mean, that was a legitimate clue and lead that was accurate and the fact that all the police officers in this whole station were like, that's so dumb.
That's a lot like that must be the worst police precinct ever. Well, it was because they had how many bank robberies before he got there.
Yeah, and they're and they were also like, yeah, that's pretty famous football player with an injury. Exactly.
So yeah, maybe that's just the thing about the movies like the police precinct was just not a good one.
No, they weren't. They weren't because again, they had over a hundred bank robberies within what three, four months rush the story.
They were like, they were so good at it and they were smart to know not to go for the vault because they could save time. Exactly. So the fact that it was so many and they were unketchable was help help help us make think like, oh man, they are really good at what they do.
My favorite part of the movie was when Gary told him to go get three sandwiches and they were only for eight dollars.
Like I think that was my favorite part can you imagine three sandwiches for eight dollars and it was big. That was a whole piece man when I know when I was looking at this thing was a real good idea.
So I'm like, you can imagine like going to the to the bodega and getting you eight dollars. That's like 90s right there plus where they were.
Come on man. That was that was my favorite. That's the most unbelievable part of the movie. That was the biggest.
Yeah, I don't care what anybody says any action. No, my favorite part of the movie was when Keanu Reeves bought three sandwiches for eight dollars. That was my favorite. Yeah, it's like that's the that's the world I want to live in.
They say, hands down, take you up to a reality you want to be in. I want to be where I can get eight dollars. And three sandwiches for eight dollars.
They look just like that. Yeah, absolutely. They look just like that. And we can eat them with Gary. You see how. Oh man. Yeah, I'm a fun guy.
I'm not a world. Here's some point break trivia for you. Yeah. So I'm fine. Keanu Reeves observed real FBI agents and Los Angeles to study the wrote for the role.
He also practiced with UCLA quarterback coaches to help him with the football scene. Okay. And this is something we know about Keanu Reeves. I did not know that.
Well, one of the things that makes him like such an interesting actor is no matter what role he is in. So in all the matrix movies and all the John Wick movies.
He would like learn how to do the martial arts or learn how to do the. Well, now that is true. Yeah. He is his own stuff in whatever role he's in. He'll like go above and beyond to learn how to do it.
And so I haven't seen them myself. But a lot of people told me about you can go online and watch him do target artists. And it's pretty cool. So the film was originally called Johnny Utah when Keanu Reeves was cast in the title role.
The studio felt that this title said very little about surfing and by the time Patrick Swasey was cast the film had been renamed to writers on the storm after the famous song by the doors. However, the lyrics had nothing to do with the film.
And so the title was also rejected. It was not halfway through the filming that point break become the film's title because it's of its relevance to surfing.
Co-producer Rick King first came up with the idea for the movie while lounging on the beach. He'd been given an LA weekly article about Los Angeles being the robbery capital of America and dreamed up a movie about an FBI agent infiltrating a surf gang that robs banks to fuel their fun.
He was on the beach. He saw surfers and they could be bank robbers or maybe he was working on a movie and he met a really mean server who like ticked them off. I'm gonna make a movie about you.
Ooh, I like that. I like that. That sounds more that that's what I would go with.
Yeah, this is a fun little fact. The film inspired a piece of cult culture. Yes, it is point break live. Have you ever seen this? No. In which the role of Johnny Utah is played by an audience member chosen by popular accolmation after a brief audition.
The new Keanu reads all of his or her lines from cue cards for the duration of the show to capture the rawness of a Keanu Reeves performance even from those who genuinely think themselves incapable of acting.
In 2013 Gary Busy attended a performance died. I would have died. I would have died. And so he received rapturous applaud. That's a fun word rapturous.
I love that. I love the rapturous. From the audience when he joined the cast on stage. There is no way I could you couldn't there is no way. Right. And then Laurie Petty would also occasionally turn up in particular.
Can you imagine also like it would be fun to see I feel like Keanu Reeves is like one of those actors that's fun to like impersonate like everyone like you killed it just like you would have done you and then great. We need to let's just go to New York every weekend. Oh my God. Yes.
I don't know. There is no Gary Busy be somewhere near me. Gary. What's up, boo? What are we doing? Where are we going? Where are we going, bro? Let's go. I love Gary Busy.
This is my favorite of the trivia. 20th century Fox had plans for a sequel of the film to be released in the summer of 1993. In fact, a script had been written and was already in pre production despite this film's grossing 90 million worldwide.
The studio decided to scrape the project. So my big question is what would the sequel be about and could we please call it 2.2 break?
OK, here's the sequel. Johnny didn't retire and the wave he wrote that wave all the way to Greenland. OK. And Johnny got it. I had to get to green. And Johnny had to get. He was like, only one I can find this man.
Or like what if he was retired, living a nice happy life with Tyler, but then where gets out that.
Boate's still alive and so like the f- I come over them things happy retired. Absolutely. That's even better
Yeah, we need you to come back and at first he's like, no and they're like
But we got a picture and they show a Patrick say as he boatie and he's like all right, right
Or they show a picture of him and boatie together at the end of it when they were talking
Like some you know where he is
Yeah, because you let him go yeah, and then to ever yeah and cuz at that point you know that
That he was wanted uh-huh they were like you're a part of it
So you're part of it. It's to clear his own. Yeah, the clear is yeah, right name two point two break. Yes point
Breaking point to yeah points broken points broken
All right, well that that's why now we're actually gonna bring back something that we didn't do
Maybe we didn't our first or second episode for season one
But then because we were rinking the movies we stopped doing it
But this is a cool thing. It's called the two fast two-ferious movie ranking
Who mean CJ are both gonna take turns and we're gonna work. We're gonna give our personal ranking now for those of you listening
You have strong opinions
This isn't about like how cinematic the match
The movie was this isn't about like the actor's performances. This is just point break point blank
Just how did we enjoy the movies right so it's a whole yeah, you can't miss it's just your opinion and we're giving you all options
To go on our stuff and rank the ranking of these
Absolutely, but it's called a two fast two-ferious movie ranking and we have four options. Okay, two fast means you loved it
Great movie loved it made your life better fast is you know you liked it. It was good
There's a lot of good movies, but you wouldn't you know
You don't have to say that they were your favorite ever, but you enjoyed them absolutely
Furious is more of like a math or don't care or maybe you don't like it like but it's not you have a strong reaction
But like you wouldn't go see it again, and then two furious is like you hated it
You don't you almost at the point where like my life is a little bit less good because of that yeah, I don't like that
I'll go first. I'm gonna start strong because I know and and I was telling CJ this for the podcast
This was a good movie. I also know looking forward
I won't be given this nice ranking to all the movies we're talking about because we got some weird ones coming up
And we hope you guys with them with us and you're patient with us on some of these because they're rough some of them
But for this movie I really enjoyed it
One of my favorite things about this movie in many movies in the 90s is it had a good plot
It wasn't you know cookie cutter where you knew everything has had I mean the characters had development the plot was good
Yeah, I mean I
At one point I thought Gary BC was gonna be the you know dirty cop
Yeah, absolutely, so yeah, it had some twists and turns so I as our first movie of season two
I'm gonna give this a too fast rating because I really liked it. Okay
I am going to give it a
Too fast as well. Let's do it. I loved it. I loved everything about it. It I love the movie so much that I named my dog
After Patrick Swasey his name was Swasey Patrick. It was a child child and he was beautiful
I
Loved besides the character plot and the the whole plot of the movie. I honestly loved
The fact that they cast these actors in this movie. I don't know who else could have been
Bodie right, but Patrick Swasey I mean he had that time he really owned it
I like how it made me
I like how it's and I like how it's been copied. I like how it's now that we've gone over this. Yeah, I can see how
It has really turned through the test of time for people absolutely and it also kind of set a new
Graphic for action films. I mean they didn't have to always be like Rambo Terminator. Absolutely
This was 100% action film, but it looked a little bit different the characters had more depth the hero
You know, Kenoree wasn't like buff Rambo. No, no, no, no this this movie made me when I was in college made me write
my play or my script about how if it's a bad person they might be doing it for
Some reason they might not be donner bad. Yeah, just Bodie bad. Yeah, and those make for good villains
I think so you can understand it. Yeah, he was a definitely gray villain
Yeah, and you can you can still say he was wrong, but you get a good a good written character
You can be like what I see why he is the way. Yeah, I see why he did it. Okay. Well cool
That was fun. So now in the part it used to be called Bailey's best bits
And kind of in honor of her. She's not dead. She's fine by the way
Yeah, she's fine. So, but we're gonna do where you keep the tradition going, but it's gonna we're gonna alternate who does it
So today's Drew's best best next week's the my BCJ's best bit. We'll just keep it up
So here's the way it works. I picked three scenes from the movie
And CJ's got to pick my quote unquote best now it doesn't always have to be my favorite
Maybe I really don't like all the movie and I picked my most hated bits or maybe I pick like what's funniest to me and she has to pick like which one
for today
I picked
kind of the one one of my favorite scenes was the the raid when they go in
Because it and they go in the break into the house and it's so overly violent and I could
Yeah, I remember that and I don't know if this was the emotion they were going for
But to me it felt a little out of place of the movie and so it was kind of funny
Especially when you look at from the perspective of like 2025. Okay, that's so that's so so I thought the action sequences
were just
And fun I enjoyed it so
For today's best bits I'm gonna give you my three favorite parts of that action sequence and you have to pick which part
Stood out to me the most is like the okay, all right
I'm ready so the first was that lawnmower part where he's got Keanu Reeves face close to the lawnmower
I remember that it's cut up but then of course Gary if you see season he says like speaking to them my pro
Yeah, I love that um that's a famous one
Oh, yeah, I didn't realize that's where I came from then speaking of Gary B
You see when you know the person has the white the woman the knife up and he just gets a clear
All-head shot and like that was the first part of like that kind of snuck up to you because you were seeing like mild action
Then you just straight shoot the guy at the head from there like the rest of it and then the last one is the guys being chased by
Keanu Reeves and so what he does is he throws a dog at him or remember that yeah
He's the pit bull yeah, yeah, like guys like take that I think your favorite
Just might have been that last one last one is that your final answer?
That's my final answer that is is my favorite they were all fun, but it was just so random
And that's why I chose that one random and there's a fun fact that's equated to it because I didn't know this bill
It is still my favorite part before I learned this fact, but just look at what fun fact it goes. I was right
Yeah, you were right, okay, so right now I got a point
One C.J. Zero Drew okay, good. I am currently undefeated in this and I they don't call it the blood bath of 2024 for nothing
I will I got it so we'll see the fun fact about that dog scene is there was actually a lot of commotion
When that movie came out and they showed that because they were afraid that someone threw a real dog at a person
And so they didn't actually throw the dog they had a scene where it looked like he was throwing and then when it flipped to Keanu Reeves
They had like a fake dog like a model something thrown at him
But it wasn't the same dog, but like if if you're watching it kind of I could see how people think yeah
No, no, no, definitely. Yeah, but no people people were up in arms about it
I think that the reason I chose that scene as your favorite is because a
It's such a comedic scene that I could just see you doing is like what why why would you
I see your face like why I was literally I mean like I said
It's fun when you watch movies that you've never seen before because you don't know what to expect
So already I thought this action scene was over the top. Yeah, and now that did they just throw a dog yeah
So it was not not a tire
Not a barrel a dog a big dog at that. I mean
You're on the run. You got to you got to use what that's around you
So I guess that makes sense. Hey big dog. It's good. No, that's good
So next week we'll see if I can catch up for if I'm forever gonna be a loser in this season of so but this
I'm not used to losing
So we're gonna I'm gonna take time to reflect and grow as a person and speaking of dogs
We're gonna show you something at the end of this episode. Yes, yeah, you stick around to see I hope it's your dog
I'll go get him
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